OLEG SHEVKUN
On FSCast episode 262, we make quick adjustments to web interface accessibility using some of the latest tools in JAWS. Then, we visit with Kristina Misiunaite, a tax policy officer from the Netherlands, to find out that tax law is not all about money, and finally, we catch up with Elizabeth Whitaker to hear what's new at Vispero's training department.
So, hello and welcome to FSCast for September 2025, and that's issue number 262. Usually, around this time, we will tell you about some of the new capabilities and new features in the upcoming versions of our products. That would be JAWS, ZoomText, and Fusion. Right now, in fact, we are finalizing some of those new features, and there will be an announcement about this at the end of the episode, so please stay tuned in for this.
Now, another change that's happening this year has to do with our public beta program. Let me remind you that, in the past, we would release a major annual update in the fall.
That would be October or November, and that would introduce quite a lot of new features, and then there would be something in the spring. That's our mid-cycle update. As of the last few years, however, this cadence has changed. We now introduce new features and capabilities evenly throughout the product version lifecycle, and therefore, we here at Vispero have decided to discontinue the public beta program. In fact, there are other ways to preview some of our upcoming features, and one of them is the Early Adopter Program, which many of you are familiar with. That's where we have features which are not quite ready for prime time, but which we would like you to see and to give us input on. In fact, in due time, these features will come out of EAP and find their way into the release product.
One of the features that has been in EAP for a while, and now is being graduated into our release products for version 2026, is the AI-based user interface labeler. I'd like to spend a few minutes just demoing how you can quickly improve accessibility of a web interface using that feature. Once again, with JAWS 2025, this is a feature that must be activated in the EAP program. In version 2026, however, this will work by default, and the idea is that you can actually use artificial intelligence to quickly label an inaccessible element of a web interface or, in fact, of other interfaces as well.
The important difference, though, is that the labels on websites or web interfaces can be saved and then edited. I'm going to show you how this works in a minute. As for other interfaces, the elements can be labeled, but currently you cannot save them.
All of this sounds quite technical, so let me show you a couple of practical examples of how we make websites accessible with AI-based UI Labeler. I'm going to go toChatGPT, and that site is supposed to be quite accessible, and it is, but there may be a need, even there, to use some of this new functionality.
So, a couple of disclaimers. These sites change quickly, so it might be that, by the time you're listening to this episode, the site has changed and the accessibility issue I'm going to show you has been fixed. That's quite possible, but as of the day we're recording it, the issue is still there, yet we can easily fix it with AI-based UI Labeler and JAWS.
Secondly, I am logged into ChatGPT. If you're not logged in, your experience may be different.
So, I'm arrowing down the ChatGPT Web interface, and I am going past my chat history and chat projects. And at one point, JAWS is saying: “Unlabeled 0 menu button, collapsed”. Okay, what could that be? If I arrow down, I land on another project, and once again there is the same Unlabeled 0 button menu.
To see what these unlabeled zero menu buttons are, I position the Virtual Cursor on one of these buttons, and I press INSERT+G, which used to be the key for the old style Graphics Labeler, but we've assigned it to our new style feature. Incidentally, if you wish to use the old-style labeler, you can still do this. The key for this has been changed, and it is now INSERT+ALT+G. But INSERT+G will activate our AI components and try to give our graphic a label, so I'm pressing that, and JAWS says: “More options button”.
I could now move away from the graphic, and I could move back, and JAWS would identify that graphic as “More options button button”. Notice that the word “Button” is repeated twice. We’ll fix this in a moment; but is that graphic name correct?
To find out, let’s press SPACEBAR to activate this control. This, indeed, takes us into a context menu with two options. So, the button has been labeled correctly.
Now, remember that there is also another unlabeled button on that same page. I suppose this can be yet another “Options” button. But let’s label it in order to find out. So, we position our Virtual Cursor on that button, and we press INSERT+G. And, of course, it is, indeed, “More options button”.
Now, it’s time to edit the labels and fix the double-speaking. To do so, I press the layered command INSERT+SPACE, followed by ALT+L, where L stands for label.
At this point, the Label Manager comes up, and I am in my labels list. But also, I can tab to buttons for additional actions. These allow me to edit or delete labels. Additionally, there are “OK button” and “Cancel button”.
So, in the labels list, I am position on what is called “More options button”. I can easily edit that label and remove the word “Button”. This will fix the double-speaking.
Very nice and clean. Now, another disclaimer, sometimes a website like ChatGPT may change the code behind those labels, and if that happens, your labels will stop working the moment you visit that site again, but on most websites, the labels will stay put.
And now we put it all together. We want to see the case where the new AI labeler, along with Picture Smart, will help us to accomplish the task that otherwise would've been difficult or impossible to accomplish.
So, I have received a link that invites me to be part of a live stream. Somebody is streaming on YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, and other services, and they've invited me to be a guest on their talk show. For me to join the stream, I need to activate a link and then to make some settings. Well, the problem is that the setting screen is not fully accessible, yet we are here and we want to be part of that stream.
So, I've activated a link that I received in an email, and I am on an entrance page for something called Restream Studio. As I explore the page, JAWS says: Unlabeled 10 button menu collapsed. Based on the location of the button, this may have something to do with the microphone. And then, as I arrow down to the camera settings, JAWS says: Unlabeled 12 button menu collapsed.
Let’s try to label the buttons. For the first one, JAWS says: Microphone button. Button button menu collapsed. Could that be the menu to choose a microphone? Let me press space to activate that. And sure enough, this brings up a menu to choose the microphone.
I arrow down to the next unlabeled button, which probably has something to do with the camera. However, as I press INSERT+G to label this one, JAWS says: Camera off, button selected. This doesn’t sound quite right. To confirm, I press SPACE on this button. And, instead of toggling the camera, this brings up a camera selection menu. So, the graphic has just been mislabeled. Fortunately, I could edit the label the way I showed you before.
After editing the label, I go through the Web page to make sure everything is right. JAWS tells me that my video is enabled, so we should be ready to go live. Still, I’d like to doublecheck that everything looks just right. For that purpose, I'm going to use Picture Smart, and by the way, in September, we've improved the responsiveness of Picture Smart, so it'll now give you the results much faster.
I'm going to press INSERT+SPACE, followed by P for Picture Smart. Then, to ask a question about the contents of the current window, I press ALT+W.
In the edit field, I type the question: “I am getting ready to go live. Is everything fine with my video?”
Then, I press ENTER to submit the question.
JAWS says:
The image is a screenshot of the Restream Studio interface in a web browser. The page is titled "Ready to Join," and has a video preview area about the video camera icon, but the preview is currently blank or not displaying any video feed.
Oops! My camera is enabled, and yet there's no video.
I think I know what’s wrong. There is a shutter that's covering the camera, and sometimes I forget to open it. Let me move the shutter and try Picture Smart again.
Now, JAWS says:
The video preview appears clear and well lit, and the person is centered well in the frame with a neutral background, which is ideal for going online.
Perfect. That's exactly what we need. The buttons on the interface are labeled, and next time I won't have to go through all this, and my camera is open and I could just start streaming without any problems.
So, that's a quick overview of using the AI-based UI Labeler, along with picture smart AI, to get access to something that otherwise would've been out of reach.
And now we move from streaming to tax law. This summer at the Tactile Reading Conference in Amsterdam, I got to meet someone who's been a listener to FS-Cast for quite a while and someone who I thought would be a great person to chat with over here on FS-Cast. Kristina Misiunaite lives in the Netherlands and works, I should say, a very important and a pretty unusual job. Hi Kristina, and welcome to FS-Cast.
KRISTINA MISIUNAITE:
Thank you. Really great pleasure to be here.
OLEG:
So Kristina, what does your business card say? What's your job?
KRISTINA:
Yes. I'm a policy officer for the value-added tax of the Ministry of Finance in the Netherlands.
OLEG:
Well, I guess that means you are a tax policy specialist, but what does this mean in practical terms?
KRISTINA:
Yeah, a tax policy specialist supports the Minister of Finance and all the people around him or her, and we do a lot of things. We write the tax law, but we will also answer questions from the people in the Parliament, but also questions from organizations, from other people, from the Dutch tax authority,. To say it really simple. They collect the money of the tax, and we work together with them, but we do the legal process about it.
OLEG:
So, wait a minute. If I take the current Dutch tax code or the current Dutch tax laws, are you saying there will be some lines or pages written by you, Kristina, or by your group, by your department?
KRISTINA:
Yeah, of course. In cooperation with the tax authority and with other ministries, but we, yeah, we wrote them.
OLEG:
Now, I don't know about the Netherlands, but in many countries, people will say, "Oh. Tax law, that's so hard to understand. That's so complicated." Do they say things like that in the Netherlands, and if so, how do you feel when you hear it?
KRISTINA:
Yeah, it's kind of a stereotype thing that people think, "Well, it's so boring, and it’s all about the money and numbers and things," but it's really about all of us. We buy things, we do things, and it's for all of us and about all of us, so I think it's not boring. The opposite of that; it's really practical when government decides, for example, that they would have more money for something, then you have to decide how to get a money and that there will be advantages of their decision and disadvantages, and then we have to say that to them. Then, at the end, the politicians have to decide what to do. We can advise them, but so not boring.
OLEG:
Do you think it might be possible to write tax laws that would be "fair"?
KRISTINA:
I hope so. But then the more philosophical question is, what is fair? One thinks it is fair; for another, it feels not fair. But you have to do it as fair as possible, and I hope it is fair, and equal and that'll be spent on things that, for people, it also feels to be fair. For example, right now in the government there's a discussion, and it comes back and back to do not VAT on vegetables and fruits, because it's good for the health of the people. They can eat more bananas than chips and things. Then, the biggest problem is the qualification, because what is vegetables? What are fruits? For example, you have potatoes, but if the potatoes will be 0% VAT, then which potatoes? Okay. The potatoes that you have in your garden, but what about then boiled potatoes or baked potatoes, and then they are also 0% VAT. Then, what about chips and things like that? And the makers of chips said, "Yeah, but there's also potatoes," but then the goal for the health reason is gone away. So , sometimes the idea can be good, but then it is really important not to forget the goal, because sometimes the VAT is not the best way to reach that goal.
OLEG:
So suddenly, the work of a tax lawyer or a tax legal professional, legal advisor, that work is not just numbers or huge Excel spreadsheets.
KRISTINA:
No, it's really not.
OLEG:
It's about people. It's about life, it's about how we live together.
KRISTINA:
Yeah, it is. I think that's the most interesting part of it for me.
OLEG:
So, talking proportions, how much of this stuff that you have to read comes to you as printed documents or handwritten documents, and how much of that is electronic these days?
KRISTINA:
Yeah. Lucky me, the biggest part of the things I have to read is electronic. It would be a disaster, I think, if the things came on paper, and I had to scan and to read them from images, so the only thing that we get on paper sometimes is, for example, a letter that we write to the Minister of Finance, and when he give his comments on it, then sometimes he writes on paper, and then my colleagues make the joke that for them it's also difficult to read what was written there, so it's not only my problem.
OLEG:
So Kristina, you work for the Ministry of Finance. How many other blind and visually impaired people are employed by that ministry?
KRISTINA:
I know a few. But in the other ministries, we have kind of a network with blind and partly-sighted people that work for the Dutch government and another, I don't know, 80 people in the network, so that's of course maybe not so representative of all people that work in the ministries, but yeah, there are.
OLEG:
Has that improved in the last few years? Is this because the government is more open for inclusion and hiring people with disabilities?
KRISTINA:
Yeah, I think they pay more attention to it, and there are more possibilities. And I hope the amount of blind or partly-sighted people will grow and grow, because the technology is there.
OLEG:
Looking at where you are right now, would you call yourself successful?
KRISTINA:
I think, yes. I'm proud of it, and I'm really glad to be here now, to be in the tax law, to be in the Hague.
OLEG:
How did you get there? You were not born in the Netherlands.
KRISTINA:
No. I was born in Lithuania, and when I was five years old, we came to the Netherlands. I was a little girl, and then I had to learn the Dutch language. Every summer of my life, I was back in Lithuania by my grandparents, and so they were there until they died in 2012. We bought kind of a holiday house in Lithuania to be there in the summer to not forget my home country. I'm always a language person. I love languages and things, so I think that helps me as a child, to learn the language, that I can go to school in the Netherlands.
OLEG:
So, what's your hometown in Lithuania?
KRISTINA:
I was born in Vilnius, in the capital city.
OLEG:
And then, at the age of five, you came to the Netherlands, and you were blind at that point, right?
KRISTINA:
I became blind when I was born. I was born two months too early.
OLEG:
When did access technology enter your life?
KRISTINA:
That was in the Netherlands, when I was in primary school, in the special school for the blind and partly-sighted people in Rotterdam. I waited for years and years to get a laptop because we learned Braille on paper in school. Then, the next step was that you learn to type. And when you can type, then you get a laptop, and I would read everything on the internet. So curious and write letters to my grandmother and to anyone, because I could do it. I was always, also as a young child, really curious about new technology, so when I learned about JAWS, then I thought, "I need to have JAWS. I have to use PowerPoint. I have to use Excel in school. I'll make the most out of it with Braille." So yeah, that was so nice that I could go further and further, and also with things I thought were not possible. For example, in Excel, if you only use the basics, then the basics were enough, but JAWS goes much further than the basics, and that was good for me.
OLEG:
When I look around, I don't see many blind people as enthusiastic about Braille. Maybe the Netherlands is the exception, and in the Netherlands, everybody who is blind and aged 15, 20, 25 or 30 years old, maybe all of them are enthusiastic about Braille. What would you say?
KRISTINA:
I would hope all of them are, but no. It depends maybe, also, when you become blind later, then for some people, of course, it's more difficult to learn Braille, but it's kind of my personal thing. I really like to read books and things, and then Braille on paper and then an Braille display, and more and more in an electronic way, but you really read it by yourself and not in another voice or another person, but hopefully my enthusiasm can be a good start for people to use it or to learn it.
OLEG:
If somebody were to ask you, "How long should my Braille display be, how many characters?" of course, the answer these days might be, "Okay. It'll be a multi-line Braille display, but let's give some more time for those displays to develop and become less expensive," and that's happening even now, but talking about what is currently available to most blind people, what would your recommendations be?
KRISTINA:
It really depends on the situation. For example, it's not such a good idea maybe to go with an 80 cells braille display on a train. But my personal opinion is as many cells as possible. In some of the advanced cases, such as Excel spreadsheets, you won’t have to spend a lot of time on the navigation. You can read it, and the split braille function is also really nice in JAWS.
OLEG:
What do you use it for?
KRISTINA:
It depends, but I think most of the time, one side to get information on the layout of the documents. For example, I read a text for work, and then there's a comment or things like that, or I would like to know the font size and things. Yeah, it's easier to see that in braille.
OLEG:
So, that's what we call attributes view, right? Where you see the text on one side and the attributes on the other side.
KRISTINA:
Yeah.
OLEG:
One objection I've heard, and I'd like to hear your answer to that, is, that using a braille display of 80 characters is really tiresome, because you have to move your hands a lot, and either you have to have very long hands or you've got to have very athletic muscles.
KRISTINA:
That's not my experience, especially when you have to read really long texts. Then, you can read and read and read.
OLEG:
And I could guess you're using both hands to read braille. Is that correct?
KRISTINA:
Yes, I use both hands.
OLEG:
And that helps. Going back to your life story, I understand that after you finished school, you went into law studies. Why did you choose to do so?
KRISTINA:
That's a nice question because I always really love languages. As I said, the Lithuanian language, but also French and German. I really had them as long as possible in high school, but I'm also really interested in economics, and then I think maybe I could combine these both things and then choose to study the tax law, because it's all about languages, but it's kind of every day. When you read a newspaper, you read about tax law. It's also about economics, and that's the most important thing. Also, I hoped the tax law is changing so often that I thought then everything would be in electronic form.
Everything would be digital, because it's so often that you have to make a new study book or a new law and a new things. During my study, I also experienced that sometimes we have the new book, but we only have a version on paper, and I thought that should not be the case! So, I'm really glad that now it's more an electronic way, because it's for everyone. It's more easy. I think you can search. My sighted colleagues and students also said that, "For us, it's so hard to take these heavy books," so, that's kind of to combine my both interests.
OLEG:
Now, Kristina, during your university or college years, did you ever feel excluded?
KRISTINA:
I think that it's more that you sometimes have to do things another way, but I always kind of search for the solution that I can do the same things, because sometimes, especially with the company tax law, it's so complicated and difficult structures with all kind of companies and companies behind, and then sometimes the teachers make pictures or they draw, and then I ask, "What is this?" and when they explain or other students explain the things for them, they also want more clear, so it was kind of, "Oh, not only you have that question, but you asked the question because you really cannot do something with the different presentation with that image." Then, I thought, "Yeah, I understand that it can be more easy to make things clear to explain them in a visual way, but then explaining in words can be good for everyone."
OLEG:
How common is it for blind and visually impaired individuals in your country to study law in general and tax law, in particular?
KRISTINA:
For law studies, there are many people, I think. Sometimes, I think, you have to have people in your path that will give you the chance, they will help you. I think it’s also good to have enthusiasm and creativity, but it's nice that more and more people do that kind of studies.
OLEG:
One issue we're hearing from different countries is, that it's one thing to get an education, and it's a totally different thing then to find a job that corresponds to your education, and that's not just the issue for those of us who are blind. It's the issue that sighted people face as well. Have you experienced that in your life? How was your job search, and did you have to convince your potential employers that you would be capable to do the job?
KRISTINA:
I really agree with that. What you learn in the books and what you do in practice, these can be totally different things. And at the place where I work now, the employer was also my teacher in university, so that was a big surprise to see each other again. He recognized me, and he said, "Oh, that’s you who was always typing and typing in the front row!" So that's really big luck, and I am really, really thankful for this, because it can be difficult, because you know that you can do it, and you have the bachelor and the master, and maybe two bachelors and what, but they have to give you a chance to experience and to learn that you can do that, so I really hope and wish that more and more people get that chance, because that's what you want, and it's not so easy for a blind person.
OLEG:
So, you look at your own story, a child of parents who came to the Netherlands from another country and had to learn the language, had to learn the culture at a very early age, but still, and you are successful. Why is it? I understand it's a tough question, it's a philosophical question. Is that just luck? Is there just stars in the right place? Is that because you open, you're talking to people, and you're making yourself known? What sets you apart?
KRISTINA:
I think for everyone it's really important to get a big portion of luck and a good help, but hopefully if you have the dedication and the possibilities, I think that the possibilities, for example, my parents, especially my mother, really helped me, especially in secondary school, with all the math things, to draw all the figures. I had a teacher of economics who was really curious about how I could understand the graphics, and he spent a lot of time explaining to me what was not so clear. I think it's a combination of things. For sure, you have to have the skills and the examples, the things and the people that can inspire you, that it is possible to do this. For example, a blind tax law advisor, a blind lawyer, they are there, and I asked them how we can do this, so I think we can help each other, and then it's maybe more for more people possible.
OLEG:
So, you did have role models, other blind people who walked the path before you, and you were looking at them and you were able to get inspired through hthat?
KRISTINA:
Yes, and ask them for help sometimes. Now, hopefully I can now help others as well.
OLEG:
How do you get over disappointment? I mean, you impress me as a really emotional person, and that means if you laugh, you laugh. If you cry, you cry. How do you get over those moments of life when you're thinking, "Hey, I'm not making it. It's just not turning out"?
KRISTINA:
I think then it's so important that you can talk to other people, to friends, to your parents. You can not stay with the bad things inside you. It's nice. Of course, it's more easy to be positive when thinking of the nice things and be enthusiastic, but for everything, it's kind of sometimes, it's difficult, and sometimes you think, "Why I cannot see and I'll run at home in kind of a few minutes and not have to walk with my cane with all the foot bikes are and the bicycles, and I don't know if they saw me and what they're doing," but the most important thing is, don't do it alone. Try to find people that can help you or the ones with whom you can do things together. Then, it’s not so hard, I think.
OLEG:
There are stereotypes in life, and one stereotype would be that a tax lawyer or a tax policy specialist must be a pretty boring individual, all in numbers and formula and so on. You definitely break that stereotype. What motivates you and what other hobbies, outside work, do you have?
KRISTINA:
I really like to run outside. In the Netherlands, we have running blinds, and that you can run with a buddy and also sometimes a group training, and I play accordion for years.
OLEG:
Accordion?
KRISTINA:
Yeah. Just for fun. But yeah, for years with the same music teacher. I came to her as a really little child. I think I was eight years old or something. I said, " I would like to play, but I cannot read the music," and she said she makes a system with music in colors for people, for who it's not possible to read the music, because of other disabilities and things, and for really young children.
Then, she said, "Okay. You cannot do it in colors, but maybe there is braille music.”
OLEG:
Of course there is.
KRISTINA:
Then we started. And I use it, and sometimes play with people together. It's nice to play music, and I really love theater and other cultural things. In other countries it’s been there for years, but in the Netherlands, more and more, there is audio description, also in the theaters and in the movies. That is really nice to go with all the blind, partly-sighted people, but also with sighted friends. They said, "Oh, wow, but it's also nice to hear and to experience this with you together."
OLEG:
Where do you see yourself in the next five or ten years, professionally, personally, whatever you are willing and ready to disclose?
KRISTINA:
I hope that I go further in the tax law at the Ministry of Finance. and of course, I'm really, really curious about where the technology is going and how quick things develop.
OLEG:
So Kristina, it's been really, really cool hearing from you, and I do hope that your story will inspire some of our listeners to get out of their comfort zone, to seek friendship, to seek advice, to seek communication, and to achieve their goals, be it professional or personal. The technology is there, but the technology is not your magic bullet. I mean, it's not going to resolve everything. Your character matters, and Kristina, thank you for sharing this with me and with our listeners.
KRISTINA:
Thank you very much.
OLEG:
And now it's that part of FSCast where we welcome Elizabeth Whitaker. Elisabeth, hello and great to see you again.
ELIZABETH WHITAKER:
Hello Oleg. It's great to be here, as always.
OLEG:
It looks like we've been doing those AI training webinars for ages, but we've actually only done two of them. How about feedback that you're receiving after those?
ELIZABETH:
We're getting a lot of information from people about how they use AI from people who are just starting on their journey with AI, and so we're getting a lot of great feedback and people saying that they're really enjoying these webinars, and they like the page where they can go get more information and use those practice exercises to supplement those webinars.
OLEG:
There's one thing that I've been sort of surprised with, even though I shouldn't be, and that is how many beginner users we have. I mean, I'm thinking everybody is thoroughly familiar with AI. What are we doing? Why are we doing this? This is AI 101, but apparently there is a need for exactly that kind of content and that type of material. Are you getting feedback from people who are just starting to use AI for whom all of this is new stuff?
ELIZABETH:
We are, and I had the same thought as you. I thought maybe more people would be using it in their daily lives, in their jobs where they can, and we use the polling feature in Zoom to get a lot of feedback, and we get a lot of valuable feedback that way. In our last webinar, what we found was the majority of people were new to AI and were really curious about it. What we're finding out is they really want to know, not only how to use it, but how it can benefit them, what they can get from it, and what it can do for them. So, I think that's really the big takeaway, is that people just weren't sure, maybe aren't sure at the beginning, but when they go through the webinars and the lessons, then they're really finding out the value of using AI.
OLEG:
So, once again, where do I go to hear the webinars we've had so far?
ELIZABETH:
We archive all of our webinars, no matter what they are, on our webinars on-demand page atFreedomScientific.com/webinars, but since these AI webinars are part of an ongoing series, and it's really more of a training initiative, not just webinars, but it's place where you can go and get a lot of resources and, as I mentioned, those exercises, which are the tasks that we cover in the webinars, we turn those into exercises that people can go back and look at and also follow along with. So, if you go toFreedomScientific.com/LearnAI, what you'll find is a heading that lists our upcoming webinars, and then another heading called "lessons," and that is where you're going to find those archived webinars and the accompanying exercises to go with them.
OLEG:
Is that audio or video, or both?
ELIZABETH:
It's actually both, so you'll be able to stream or download the audio in MP3 format or the video in MP4 format.
OLEG:
Plus, the accompanying materials, as you have already mentioned. Now, our next AI webinar is actually very, very soon. That's October 2nd. What do we expect there?
ELIZABETH:
This webinar is going to be on using ChatGPT, so the first two are more introductory, "What is AI? What are prompts? How do we use them?" Now we're going to really delve into the tools themselves, so we're going to talk about, "What is ChatGPT? What are some things that you can do with ChatGPT? How do you ask questions via chat or voice?" And then, of course, we're going to walk through a lot of different tasks, all related, that will help users really understand the power of ChatGPT, so we're really going to be breaking it down and talking about that particular tool.
OLEG:
You know, what I like about those webinars is their practical application, the exercises you're doing. For each of the webinars so far, I can basically say, "Well, this is the practical skill, or these are the skills the users could have developed." For example, in the second webinar, I really like the idea of starting with general questions, and then even with help of AI, making those questions more specific, kind of narrowing them down. That's quite a good skill. So,. can you just outline one specific skill that people will be able to acquire or develop after they participate in our upcoming webinar?
ELIZABETH:
Sure. One of the things that we're going to cover in this webinar is to ask ChatGPT to create a long document and then pull certain pieces of information from that document and analyze it. Then, another thing we're going to cover is to create a document, and then have ChatGPT create that same information for a different audience, so if you're writing to people in your organization, for example, if you're providing information to them, versus if you're providing information to users or a certain group of people. A big part of that is going to be having a conversation with the AI tool, with ChatGPT, using natural language. I think what's really going to pull that out and add some clarity to that is going to be using the chat feature, yes, where we type the information into ChatGPT, but also using the voice feature, where you can really have a conversation and get that feedback in a very conversational manner where you're having an actual dialogue with the tool.
OLEG:
And for those who would like to join that webinar, I understand that registration is still open. Is that going to be open until the last day, or does it close anytime soon?
ELIZABETH:
It is open, right up to the webinar, and again, if you go toFreedomScientific.com/LearnAI, and you go to that heading that says "upcoming webinars," there's a registration link right there. Of course, we posted on the blog, and the link was in that blog post, so there's several places you can go to register. As always, if anyone needs any help registering, send an email to training@vispero.com. We are always checking that email, right up to the webinar, so it doesn't matter what time it is. Just send us that email, and we'll make sure that you get registered.
OLEG:
Now, these days, it might seem that everything is about AI, and of course that's not the case, especially here at Vispero in our training department. There are other webinars and other topics. To the best of my knowledge, there is another webinar coming up in October. Can you tell me more about it?
ELIZABETH:
So, that's our software webinar that we hold the third Thursday of October at noon eastern, so this upcoming software webinar is October 16th, and this one's going to be on using the Microsoft editor in Word documents to check spelling, grammar, document, statistics, et cetera. We covered this a few years ago in another webinar, but of course, a few things have changed since then on navigation and some features that they've added. So we're going over that again and showing people how to navigate that editor, how to check that spelling, grammar, and get all those document statistics checked for conciseness, formality, and so forth.
OLEG:
And registration is also open via the Vispero training page. Is that correct?
ELIZABETH:
Yes, so if you go to freedomscientific.com/training, then look for the heading that says "upcoming webinars." If you go to that page, you'll find the webinar right there.
OLEG:
So, I guess we're gearing up for another busy month here at Vispero, including the training department, and there are things to enjoy, there are things to participate. There is knowledge and there is experience to acquire. This also brings us to the end of the September 2025 issue of FSCast. I mentioned earlier in this episode that there will be more information about the upcoming product updates. Well, in October, mid-month, we may release an earlier episode of FSCast. This is not a promise, but it may well happen, so please keep your ears and your eyes open. I want to remind you that you can send us an email for training matters right to training@Vispero.com, and for FSCast related questions, write to FSCast@vispero.com, and Elizabeth, thank you for being with us and updating us on what's happening in the training department. It's always great talking to you here on FSCast.
Elisabeth Whitaker:
Thank you, Oleg.
OLEG:
And thank you all for listening. Bye
Elisabeth Whitaker:
Bye.